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Like Organizing Bus Stops: Secular Student Alliance at 20

In this episode Douglas chats with August Brunsman, one of the founders and first paid executive director of the Secular Student Alliance which is celebrating its 20th anniversary. We talk about the heady days at the beginning of the group, the problems that come along with a college project like SSA, and his continuing work with Camp Quest – An educational adventure shaped by fun, friends and freethought.